Alternative breeding idea/species permission, UPDATED

DNS · Post by **DNS** » Sat Aug 05, 2006 11:50 pm

Does anyone know who i should ask for geperna/mythicalae permissions?

JKatkina · Post by **JKatkina** » Sat Aug 05, 2006 11:51 pm

Err... Drakiera, but as far as I know, she's off... you know, having a life in that weird real-world place right now. o___o She stops by very infrequently.

(Drakiera! Come back! We miss you! T__T)

DNS · Post by **DNS** » Sat Aug 05, 2006 11:52 pm

-gives kat an odd look- real world? what is this.. real world?

>.> and ah. Damn. well, then, i prolly won't know for awhile, if at all. -mentally marks them as restricted up to 1/4 blood-

Myrror · Post by **Myrror** » Sun Aug 06, 2006 10:21 am

Right now it's Supernal/Infernal matings--though I'm wanting to restrict all types of breeding. Mostly because I'm...working on something, and I want to be behind the first Supernal/Infernal clutch.

Supernals won't make with anything that has any Infernal blood, and Infernals likewise. Now, hybrids will--an infernal hybrid can breed with a supernal hybrid. (Doesn't mean they will, just means they can.)

Any others--if I create such--will also be added as they are created. ^.^;

DNS · Post by **DNS** » Sun Aug 06, 2006 4:12 pm

-nodnod- mmk. That makes it a little clearer. Do you have any links to some information about either, so i don't accidently breed them out of ignorance? ^^;
like pictures.

Drakiera · Post by **Drakiera** » Sun Aug 06, 2006 4:24 pm

Geperna, Wylds, and custom creatures I've done can be used per their owner's discretion; I'm not gonna restrict 'em from anything and if you want breeding pairs, you should be able to find more than a few willing participants out there. ;p

Mythicalan, however ... I believe I've given out all of one pure breed, neglected to give out her partner, and generally feel bad about not finishing the second pair I intended to do. For the one that's out there, even though I really want to keep things restricted, I cannot do so and be justified. Any /future/ Mythicalan pure breeds that get put out there will not be permissible. Half-breeds and mixes of Mythicalan, however, are perfectly fine.

If that doesn't make sense, let me know. :/ Basically, do what you will with the ones I've made, but if I come back and crank out my Mythicalan pure breeds, then ... those ones are restricted, but the others remain open for experimentation. ;p

Post by **Dray** » Sun Aug 06, 2006 4:24 pm

XD You'll be able to tell Infernals because (I think?) They've got a big underbite with lots of teeth, and glowy red eyes, and nebulously-thing wings. Some have six limbs as well, unless I'm mixing them up with some kind of hybrid.

the Supernals have SUPAR-floofy manes and feathery wings. They look kind of angellic. I don't have any of either up to link to you, but I know that Myrror and some other people will know where some image-links are!

Myrror · Post by **Myrror** » Sun Aug 06, 2006 4:27 pm

Infernal:
http://www.edgeofshadows.com/ShadowEdge ... raosa.html

Supernal:
http://cacopheny.lmfao.org.uk/aven/tayne.htm

No info up on pages yet--it's on my to-do list. They were giveaway stuff.
Really need it with the way the supernal's powers work..

And Infernals have the six limb thing going on--and it seems it may be strong, as the current quarter-hybrid cross clutch has them. May just be the artist, though. I'd say the overall spininess is stronger than the extra forlimbs, as well as a Supernal overall fluffyness.

DNS · Post by **DNS** » Sun Aug 06, 2006 4:27 pm

Eee~! thank you so much for that and your patience, Drakiera.

and i think i get what you're saying. Anythign you draw, including mutts, customs and purebreds, marring the Mythicalae, whose dilution point is 1/2(so i can use their kids). that's all i need to know~ the only thing that confused me was the bit about the mythicalae, did you only make one of them or something? but then, it could be because i'm running on 3 sleepless nights~ whee.
but yeah. ^^ thanks~ and correct me if i'm wrong.

and.. aaaah, i think. -nodnod- Thanks, Dray. -hugglegnaw- that clarifies things, though i wouldn't say no to people offering image links.
-puppy eyes to all~-

thank you both,

Cacopheny · Post by **Cacopheny** » Sun Aug 06, 2006 4:28 pm

So far every supernal has used this template, except for one and he's mine and he's not likely to be involved in this, no offense. So that's the template to look out for.

Infernals look like this, using this template, except for the odd hybrid or gift. They always look pretty much like this, though: spiney, fangy, extra limbs, underbite, what have you.

DNS · Post by **DNS** » Sun Aug 06, 2006 4:28 pm

..ha~ latepost.

thanks, myrror and caco~ -toddles off to look and makes note of appearance-

Cacopheny · Post by **Cacopheny** » Sun Aug 06, 2006 4:28 pm

Haha, latepost, indeed XD Even used one of the same links :: waves to Myrror ::

Drakiera · Post by **Drakiera** » Sun Aug 06, 2006 4:37 pm

The only Mythicalan dragon I ever made is one that's participating in the copper frenzy, a pure breed Metal female. So ... yeah. Just the one. :p

Myrror · Post by **Myrror** » Sun Aug 06, 2006 4:44 pm

Well, there was a clutch of half-infernals that used this template:
http://www.edgeofshadows.com/ShadowEdge ... elagb.html

The Kurenanshekusai offspring drawn by DF have these half-infernals as part of their parentage, but with such the mixture, I'd say that only a full-blooded Supernal could even sense the Infernal blood in them and their offspring.

Post by **Dray** » Sun Aug 06, 2006 5:17 pm

*drools* Drakiera, you're not going to regret giving JKat that metal female. Homg, her adult templates that're in the copper frenzy are to /die/ for. @______@""" They're facking awesome.

DNS · Post by **DNS** » Sun Aug 06, 2006 5:21 pm

...;-; Dray's lucky cuz she gets a preview!
-pokes incessantly until head implodes-

I can't wait to see them, though. -wriggles with glee-

JKatkina · Post by **JKatkina** » Sun Aug 06, 2006 8:20 pm

Drakiera, I'll respect your desire for restrictions and keep Hiokaea out of things. :3 *wriggles* I do loves her so. If you want to take a looksee at her babies, pop me a PM or an email?

Drakiera · Post by **Drakiera** » Sun Aug 06, 2006 8:26 pm

Pshaw. Go ahead and breed the daylights out of her, JKat. XD Assuming, o'course, she doesn't maim anyone. *cough*

JKatkina · Post by **JKatkina** » Sun Aug 06, 2006 8:29 pm

*cackles* That be the problem; she might! <3 She's such a caring dragoness.

But seriously, every time I read that personality you gave her I get shivers. :o She's that awesome. *wriggles*

DNS · Post by **DNS** » Sun Aug 06, 2006 10:52 pm

Actually, nevermind.

The chances of people actually taking interest are rare anyways, and that was the clincher. realistically. -has been rereading things and looking through comments-

i saved all the limits, privately. if anyone wants such a clutch, they can contact me. otherwise, nevermind. erase it from the records and all that.

Shard · Post by **Shard** » Sun Aug 06, 2006 11:38 pm

Um, why? Just because we haven't lept at it in 24 hours or so, doesn't mean there's no interest. I've been scouring my dragons looking for pairs I would like to see you do... :/ And you had an exceptional response for people who won't mind or stop you from doing it...

DNS · Post by **DNS** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 12:59 am

no, no, honestly, it isn't that. I have my reasons, trust me. :/ More looking back through things andwhatnot, and having a realistic convo with a couple non-nexus friends, and a few things. And i'll still offer it privately, i naccordince with my restrictions, just... not publically anymore. :/

Post by **Dray** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 7:33 am

O_o

DNS, if you're going to raise a big conversation about it, it seems kind of silly to me to, a day after, say "No, nevermind, I'm not doing it anymore unless you remember and ask me personally," after going and getting all of this permission and stuff.

If you're going to send in a candidate or set up an agency or whathaveyou, it's bad form to just... go back on it. It's frustrating for people, for instance, if you've sent in a candidate and they've paired it with a dragon already, and then you say, "nevermind, I'm deleting them," or "no, nevermind, I've decided to move them somewhere else," (that's not something that you've done, but it's happened to me before) even if it's with good intentions. >.O"

Uh, this kind of turned into a general rant--what I mean to say is, even if there were some restrictions, we don't /mind/ if you have said kinds of breeding options at your agency, and there's no problem with leaving them listed, unless it's really getting on your nerves.

DNS · Post by **DNS** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:29 am

-waves paw- I know that, i know that. Believe me, I had intended to do a lot with this. ._. it's not really to do with the restrictions, even though the ones I DID get (and i got far more allowneces than restrictions) were pretty debiliatating. It's not to do with the restrictions or anything, and, to my knowledge, no one was really particularly interested in this. I mean, i got some, sure that's cools, but otherwise, no real interest.

The restrictions and the lack of interest weren't waht killed this, however. X.x The only reason i feel okay killing this is cuz there wans't much interest-- and if there was interest, by all means, tell me. I did go through a LOT of effort, finding all that stuff and pming almost every member of the nexus and wahtnot for permissions, and like shit i'm one to just waste effort. I closed this because I was talking to a couple of non-nexus friends yesterday and telling them about it, and they made some good points. I took a step back and assessed everything, and looked at it realistically, isntead of idealistically. i do that, i get ahead of myself and think, oh this would be a neat idea, when it has more flaws than benefits.

Now, if anyone was actually looking forward to this, than by all means tlel me, and i'll put all the shit back up again, albiet on a much lower key. ._. To my knowledge, not many people expressed much interest anyway, but i'm also not the best at reading people out there.

so yeah. it's not about my restrictions, and not about the lack of interest. It was up for more than a day, and I'm regretting the loss of effort more than anyone. I was the one pming people and getting under people's skin about this and all, and it kind of annoys me that I wasted so much of everyone's time. :/ I should've looked at all the flaws from the start, until waiting until the last moment, and i'm sorry for that. eh.

JKatkina · Post by **JKatkina** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:31 am

Uh... I'm confused.

So the lack of interest didn't kill it, but the lack of interest is the reason it died?

DNS · Post by **DNS** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 11:33 am

>.> I shouldn't write when i'm running on a week of no sleep.

A lack of interest is why I don't feel bad just closing it like that, so abruptly. But a lack of interest is NOT why i killed it in the first place-- there were a lot of flaws with ALL of it that I didn't take into consideration. and THAT was why it died. >.>

whee. i'm confusing.

DNS · Post by **DNS** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 4:31 pm

.........

Okay. Nevermind.

I'm sorry for flipflopping around on this issue like this, but the deal was thus:

I closed it last night because a number of my roleplay friends objected to it. I originally started doing this kind of thing with our roleplay characters, humanoids and whatnot. it was MY idea, which is why i put it up in the damn first place, but when i told some of them about it last night, they got kind of annoyed that i put it up without their permission, among other things. So, after some scathing words, I pulled this option down after they all signed off last night.
When they all got back on, over the course of the day, they informed me, even before I brought it up, that they were sorry and it was my idea to do with what I pleased. They also now object to me taking it down in the first place, and actually think it would be a neat idea. :/

so. um. open again, and if anyone changes their mind, it stays open. end.

Apparently, what htey objected to was not me putting it public in the first place, but me not asking them first. I didn't think i needed to, since it was, you know, my idea, but so it goes.

So i've opened it again. -.- and this is the last anyone will hear about it now. Updates are going to go on the breeding website itself, as well as decss for all the alternative methods, INCLUDING genetic synths, for lack of a better term. Lot of IC options for your dragons that would make interesting ideas.

Ad current, any Dragon/mutt can be used, so long as it's not drawn by Yakima and is at or less than 1/4: Suva, Tecii, Mirus, Danachian, escentas, Athanasian, Dyrmyst, Mharra Varrey, diety dragon, iloian, Koronatian, any original species by yakima (and she'd liked to be informed about it in addition), Kilamdiry, Terigon, or yautjadragon; 1/2: mythicalae, alskyrian when drawn by kitsu or yakima (other artists should be fine), pernese when drawn by kitsu or yakima (other artists should be fine); or Ioran (starburst would like to be notified of ANY odd breedings, including synths), incompatibale mixes in myrror's creatures (supernalxinfernal), otherforest dragons, and the incompatible mixes of Silver Midnight's dragon creatures.

so yeah. more and easier to understand restrictions posted on the webbie, or shall be soon.

aand that's the last of it, i think. Futher permissions will be obtained over PM. this thread is closed. and once again, truely sorry for this flipflopping. -.-

Mystic Dragon · Post by **Mystic Dragon** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 4:38 pm

Oh dear sweet God. If they're going to be that snippy about YOUR idea, then maybe it's the RP's you should reconsider. Your life, run it the way you want. There was plenty of interest in this before you even got started on the allowances/restrictions list.

JKatkina · Post by **JKatkina** » Mon Aug 07, 2006 4:40 pm

Okay, this makes lots more sense! *facepalm* Explainations are good. o.o anywhoo, I'm glad said friends apologized and such.

Good to have it back. :3