Shimmer Effect

Shiolar · Post by **Shiolar** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 12:36 pm

I'm not too concerned with not having CS, anyway. I didn't much care for Photoshop at all, but given what Yakima can do with 7, I think I'll give 7 another chance to prove itself to me. If Photoshop 7 and PSP 9 can get along, they can both be installed on my computer...

DNS · Post by **DNS** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 12:40 pm

CS just sucks. I've only ever used Photoshop, though I do have to try out psp. I had it once before, but an aancient version and I couldn't figure it out for the life of me.
7 was godlike, though. I think it even had a feature to seperate hand-drawn lineart out, though i forgot how.

Astra · Post by **Astra** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 12:45 pm

I have CS ... I don't really see what's wrong with it to be honest as far as I can tell it's exactly like 7. Maybe I'm too retarded to tell the difference lol. I also have photoshop elements 2.0 which is what I had before CS and that's really all I need for most purposes but CS is very nice for all the layer effects and such. Really the entire reason I bought elements was because I wanted the lens flare filter. That is what sold me on it

I tried to make a shimmer Gecnawan but it was laughably bad so I won't post it

DNS · Post by **DNS** » Tue Jun 06, 2006 12:47 pm

..yeah, that is a nice filter~ It makes things pretty~
My elements came with my tablet. IT's better then nothing, i suppose, but I still hate it with a fiery passion.
And from what I remember, CS always struck me as being trestres different from 7. For one because they changed around a lot of things, and you can't do that lineart thing anymore. but then again, it's been years~

Shiolar · Post by **Shiolar** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 3:04 pm

I tried doing a shimmery triowing Danachian... He was supposed to be copper...

The problem is my shading... Usually my shading layer is on the normal setting, but that looked odd, so I tried overlay, and the result was this guy looking a bit like he's been set on fire...

Astra · Post by **Astra** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 3:06 pm

oooo ... Shiolar, that looks pretty spiffy!

Kitsuneko · Post by **Kitsuneko** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 3:10 pm

Dude...Cool dragon, Shiolar!

Shiolar · Post by **Shiolar** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 3:13 pm

It looks okay... I'm not happy with the shading, though... Like, the fact that there isn't really any now... Obviously, I need to refine my shading technique a little...

JKatkina · Post by **JKatkina** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 3:32 pm

Holy wow... I'm not generally a fan of filters etc, but holy cow, Shiolar, that's gorgeous. @.@

Yakima · Post by **Yakima** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 3:44 pm

Sometimes you need to do a more grayish version of a color when using an overlay layer unless you're aiming for fire. I sometimes have to add layers of the overlay shading (duplicate, I mean), so that the shading is visable.

Sorry, I have replied to anyone. Been busy. I'll try your idea Dray, though I do have about 10+ templates to do. I also intend to see what it looks like with the filter effect and the burn/dodge layers so you can see the shading. Not too sure how much I'll like the glassy look but we'll see...

Also, Yakima hurt her wrist at work so drawing and even typing kinda hurts so until my right hand feels better *winces as she types*, I may not be able to do a lot. It's not really bad but it still hurts constantly and the constant pain is what is starting to annoy me. That and I think a week should have ended it. I think I pulled a tendon or something...grrr...anyway, thanks for the ideas! For those of you that tried it, you need to really play with the settings sometimes to get the shimmer effect lined up nicly with the template. No template uses the same settings....hee...

Shiolar · Post by **Shiolar** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 3:49 pm

I'll try doing some duplicate shading layers to see how that affects it... my shading is already in grayscale... I'm sure if I keep playing with it, I'll stumble across exactly the right method soon enough...

Glad you like it though, JKat... It did rather turn out better than I expected, despite the fiery-ness...

DNS · Post by **DNS** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 3:55 pm

O__O Dns likes the fire. you should like, do a set like that. Danachians when introduced to flamethrowers or something.

;-; and ow, my wrist aches in sympathy for you, yakima~ -offers legal painkillers-

jess d · Post by **jess d** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 5:07 pm

I like the coppery color - he looks like brand new pennies! Like really, really new

Yakima · Post by **Yakima** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 7:53 pm

Okay, so I tried the normal white layer and I didn't get it to work how I wanted it to. However, I did go into Photoshop and play with the filter again and adjusted it to make it 'softer'...I like this version better...

DNS · Post by **DNS** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 7:57 pm

first ofall, yakima, i've been meaning to ask, but what are those things?

and OMGITSHOT AND SHINEY AND OOOOOOOOMGGGGGGGG! -pounces on it and clings- SHIINEEYY!

DNS · Post by **DNS** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 7:58 pm

also another question i've been meaning to ask-- why does everyone put really thick black lines around their lineart? Though i like them. -pokes it-

jess d · Post by **jess d** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 7:59 pm

Oooo, I like that one! So shimmery-shiney!

Kitsuneko · Post by **Kitsuneko** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 7:59 pm

I like that, Yakima.

And I must send more candidates to you. ^^;

JKatkina · Post by **JKatkina** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 8:06 pm

It's a... well, it's a Type 2 Bonder Daemon times something. X3 I don't remember what exactly. An example of a t2 Bonder: http://www.geocities.com/sunrise_twilig ... tspark.htm

As for the black lines... goodness knows. X3 It's kind of a habit that seems to have spread about the Nexus-artists. I think it separates the art from the background its eventually placed on, which is handy if the background colors and dragon colors clash -- there's not so much of an eyesore clash with the thick black surrounding the creature.

DNS · Post by **DNS** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 8:14 pm

ooh, dns is not so confused. thankyou.
;-; the bonder deamon is pretty is beautiful, by the way. ahjsda. -clingstoit-

and ooou, that makes a lot of sense. XP I thought it was just some biproduct of the inking, but it does help alot. ;-;
-continues to stare at the bonder daemon happily- <3~

Yakima · Post by **Yakima** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 8:20 pm

Yeah, Deamon Type 2 and an oriental mutt: Multra Kiona is the mother and Jatansyal is the father...

Yeah, the black lines make it easier to turn into a transparent gif if needed. Most of the Shimmer Frenzy ones are probably going to be pngs due to color info. But yeah...pretty much what Kat said.

Post by **Dray** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 8:22 pm

The thicker outline also helps when a person is deleting the background, that way there's more black space between the white background and the creature to delete without going into the coloured parts, and there's less chance of making one of those gross fuzzy halos. ^^;

DNS · Post by **DNS** » Wed Jun 07, 2006 8:31 pm

it's all clear to me now~ Though actually, i never woudl've thought of tha tlast one. XP I just do everything on seperate layers and kill the white background one.

thank you for explainies~

PS, yakima~ you will be getting one more candiedate from me~ just after i finish Kaiser for the BWR. -nods and salutes-

Shiolar · Post by **Shiolar** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 11:35 am

Personally, I've never had any trouble with removing backgrounds and such while using thin or non-existant outlines... But that's probably more because of how I use layers more than anything else...

Anyway, I redid the shimmery copper trio-wing. I think he looks better now... I lowered the opacity of the shimmer effect so it doesn't completely drown out the shading...

JKatkina · Post by **JKatkina** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 11:37 am

*wistful sigh* Where does one get one of these beauties?

Shiolar · Post by **Shiolar** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 11:49 am

The trio-wings will be in a giveaway as soon as I'm done colouring... I've not got any immediate plans to do any shimmery ones, but I'm sure something could be arranged.

DNS · Post by **DNS** » Thu Jun 08, 2006 1:50 pm

...;----; shiolar i want to chew on it's wiiiings.

Mystic Dragon · Post by **Mystic Dragon** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 6:53 pm

Alright, I finally found a few minutes to sit down and get myself a Yousendit account. Does anyone still:

a) Need PS:CS?

b) Need advice on how to make it work? (I did. It's complicated and yet stupidly simple)

DNS · Post by **DNS** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 6:55 pm

NRRGH! NRRGH!
;-; if you can send me photoshop anything i would love you FOREVER.

Mystic Dragon · Post by **Mystic Dragon** » Fri Jun 09, 2006 6:57 pm

-.- It'll take three hours to send, so have patience. One (or more) of my family members may try to close it before it's done. Which means I'll have to start all over again tomorrow.

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Shimmer Effect

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