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- Yakima
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Lineage Tracker...Stuff
Not to annoy anyone with my computer problems again, but I called and was informed that the problem was one really, really bad virus I had contracted. As I am unsure where I got it I'm pretty sure it was during one of my searchers for one of my dragons parantage. A host site that seemed to be the start of my problems. As searching for all these dragons is hard enough, is there some way to minimize the hunts? I know I try to help others out at Falas (and it will carry to my other sites such as Baskar, Treval, ect), by putting up as far as I can go. I don't see much help coming from this but to hunt myself but after that virus I'm paranoid to try it again...*sighs* Just wanted to throw this on the table to see what other's said. (at least those that keep track off all the lineages for the dragons... )
*notices poll at bottom...* hmmmmmm....yeah, vote maybe? i think that since each dragon would be hard to do, each clutch we have hatched or hatch (I know some places already do this...) could help. *decides against poll for right now*
*notices poll at bottom...* hmmmmmm....yeah, vote maybe? i think that since each dragon would be hard to do, each clutch we have hatched or hatch (I know some places already do this...) could help. *decides against poll for right now*
~ Weyrwoman Yakima of Isla Weyr
Isla Weyr: http://www.isla.mage-circle.com
Velare Isle: http://www.velare.mage-circle.com
Treval Dragonry: http://www.treval.mage-circle.com
Alair WolfKeep
The Last Oddessy: http://www.last-oddessy.mage-circle.com
Baskar Castle: http://www.baskar.mage-circle.com
World of Sentra: http://www.sentra.mage-circle.com
Isla Weyr: http://www.isla.mage-circle.com
Velare Isle: http://www.velare.mage-circle.com
Treval Dragonry: http://www.treval.mage-circle.com
Alair WolfKeep
The Last Oddessy: http://www.last-oddessy.mage-circle.com
Baskar Castle: http://www.baskar.mage-circle.com
World of Sentra: http://www.sentra.mage-circle.com
I'm not sure if there's any way to minimize hunts, save for harassing every person who puts out a clutch to do their best to link parents, or better yet, create some kind of pedigree chart!
If you wanted help, I'm sure a number of people would be interested in running some searches for you--not that that would help with the potential virus problems... but it's a start, I s'pose!
It'd be neat to have one massive, searchable map of all the dragons that haven't been left to space and time out there, and their parents' parents' parents' parents' parents! I don't possess the coding skills necessary to create such a thing, unfort. :\
If you wanted help, I'm sure a number of people would be interested in running some searches for you--not that that would help with the potential virus problems... but it's a start, I s'pose!
It'd be neat to have one massive, searchable map of all the dragons that haven't been left to space and time out there, and their parents' parents' parents' parents' parents! I don't possess the coding skills necessary to create such a thing, unfort. :\
- Yakima
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I think the coding would be easy (or I would cheat and use Word or something...) but it's compiling it. It's the reason I started my own at Falas and found them pretty easy. The hard part is when people don't list parents at all...
It was, after all, a thought... *goes to play with the nexus logo in illustrator while she's on her mac*
It was, after all, a thought... *goes to play with the nexus logo in illustrator while she's on her mac*
~ Weyrwoman Yakima of Isla Weyr
Isla Weyr: http://www.isla.mage-circle.com
Velare Isle: http://www.velare.mage-circle.com
Treval Dragonry: http://www.treval.mage-circle.com
Alair WolfKeep
The Last Oddessy: http://www.last-oddessy.mage-circle.com
Baskar Castle: http://www.baskar.mage-circle.com
World of Sentra: http://www.sentra.mage-circle.com
Isla Weyr: http://www.isla.mage-circle.com
Velare Isle: http://www.velare.mage-circle.com
Treval Dragonry: http://www.treval.mage-circle.com
Alair WolfKeep
The Last Oddessy: http://www.last-oddessy.mage-circle.com
Baskar Castle: http://www.baskar.mage-circle.com
World of Sentra: http://www.sentra.mage-circle.com
- caesiusdraco
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I'm almost tempted to do it, because it'd be an awesome project. Even if it would take forever. XD
I don't think you'd want to do it so much by dragon than by clutch, though, but it wouldn't be too excruciatingly hard. It's surprising how man have common ancestors.
I don't think you'd want to do it so much by dragon than by clutch, though, but it wouldn't be too excruciatingly hard. It's surprising how man have common ancestors.
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Before she turns, rose-thorned tail streaking my hood,
I glimpse from her a thought like jagged glass,
Yet delicate with the texture of sentience:
We remain "turtle-apes", only the shells of our armors grow.
-My Bones Waxed Old by Robert Frazier
~*~
Before she turns, rose-thorned tail streaking my hood,
I glimpse from her a thought like jagged glass,
Yet delicate with the texture of sentience:
We remain "turtle-apes", only the shells of our armors grow.
-My Bones Waxed Old by Robert Frazier
How would it work, if you did it by clutch? All of the siblings may have various amounts of kids, as well!
(And I was thinking something along the lines of this: http://www.musicplasma.com/ , only instead of listing artists, it'd be dragons! XD)
(And I was thinking something along the lines of this: http://www.musicplasma.com/ , only instead of listing artists, it'd be dragons! XD)
Hey, if you could find a way to list lineage that doesn't make you scroll forever in either direction... I know that Virtual Horse Ranch had a pedigree system that worked out very nicely! ^^; I'd gladly go out and start searches for various dragons in that case! (I think the best bet would be to have everyone searching for their own dragons' lineage, and where they meet then... well, let others know when they've got a pedigree done! Could even have a thread to ask people to help where they're stuck!)
- Yakima
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Wouldn't something like the Wiki help, too? *shrugs* I would help, to be sure and since most of the falas pedigrees (at least current ones) are done, I can supply those rather quickly...
~ Weyrwoman Yakima of Isla Weyr
Isla Weyr: http://www.isla.mage-circle.com
Velare Isle: http://www.velare.mage-circle.com
Treval Dragonry: http://www.treval.mage-circle.com
Alair WolfKeep
The Last Oddessy: http://www.last-oddessy.mage-circle.com
Baskar Castle: http://www.baskar.mage-circle.com
World of Sentra: http://www.sentra.mage-circle.com
Isla Weyr: http://www.isla.mage-circle.com
Velare Isle: http://www.velare.mage-circle.com
Treval Dragonry: http://www.treval.mage-circle.com
Alair WolfKeep
The Last Oddessy: http://www.last-oddessy.mage-circle.com
Baskar Castle: http://www.baskar.mage-circle.com
World of Sentra: http://www.sentra.mage-circle.com
>.> Is the Wiki still going? I thought that Liam had made that, and that Knux was somehow involved?
O_o How would a wiki work, anyhow? I can't see people wanting to re-do whole stats pages... maybe just have a basic sort of thing.... like Grey's stud database? Name, gender, breed/species, colours, basic personality of about two or three words, size, special abilities, links to parents/grandparents etc. though not necessarily in that order? Any other pertinent info, if we're looking at them from a breeding-need-to-know perspective?
O_o How would a wiki work, anyhow? I can't see people wanting to re-do whole stats pages... maybe just have a basic sort of thing.... like Grey's stud database? Name, gender, breed/species, colours, basic personality of about two or three words, size, special abilities, links to parents/grandparents etc. though not necessarily in that order? Any other pertinent info, if we're looking at them from a breeding-need-to-know perspective?
I won't put anything in the wiki, it is still up that I know of but frankly I couldn't care less about it. It isn't a format that is as 'easy' as all that to use.
Perhaps in the database section, what we could start doing for those of us who have older dragons, is zip up or transfer to word format the records of older weyrs or places we might have stored (like aden/jerdan, talor, gallimim etc - all those I have myself) for reference. I think really it's up to the people making parents list to keep them up. Not every dragon really needs a pedigree, sometimes it's kinda nice to know but I doubt its essential to every dragon out there. My pernese ones certainly aren't going to get them. I've made the attempt on mine that I've gotten as gifties or giveaways, and who already have them on their page, but I usually try to list the parents anyway.
And Yakima, if you're not using Firefox as your browser you WILL get other spyware and viruses on your computer, no matter where you browse. I highly recommend you get over whatever phobia you have of it, because it really does work best.
Perhaps in the database section, what we could start doing for those of us who have older dragons, is zip up or transfer to word format the records of older weyrs or places we might have stored (like aden/jerdan, talor, gallimim etc - all those I have myself) for reference. I think really it's up to the people making parents list to keep them up. Not every dragon really needs a pedigree, sometimes it's kinda nice to know but I doubt its essential to every dragon out there. My pernese ones certainly aren't going to get them. I've made the attempt on mine that I've gotten as gifties or giveaways, and who already have them on their page, but I usually try to list the parents anyway.
And Yakima, if you're not using Firefox as your browser you WILL get other spyware and viruses on your computer, no matter where you browse. I highly recommend you get over whatever phobia you have of it, because it really does work best.
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I can mark down lineage for dragons I care about, and probably find the records for each clutch from RoF after going through my files. Usually I know who is related to who out of my own dragons. =3
Like Dulath --> Jishinith --> Selenyan --> Haukeath --> Fanyaramaremea -> to Niteo Ramaya and Koiri Syaess.
Faith + Nightmare --> Maya --> Henshuth --> Aldyss
>3
Like Dulath --> Jishinith --> Selenyan --> Haukeath --> Fanyaramaremea -> to Niteo Ramaya and Koiri Syaess.
Faith + Nightmare --> Maya --> Henshuth --> Aldyss
>3
- Mystic Dragon
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I googled family tree generators, but it looks like all of them are trial only. There's no free ones.
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If you can find one that looks decent and isn't retardedly expensive, I don't mind funding one for everybody to use. I haven't bought any commissions this month, so my "art-related fund" is still at maximum XD
::has no qualms about program-sharing... LONG LIVE THE PIRATES, ARR::
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Into the blue again - After the money's gone
Once in a lifetime - Water flowing underground
Someone suggested that...
But honestly, I'd rather start a whole new one for it, rather then use the old. I don't like that it's hosted by someone who we can't get ahold of, even if he was nice the whole time the Knux fiasco was abroad. It would be nice if we could set up keywords so that searching was easy. Say... instead of saying "Avengaean Daemon half breed" we could say "Avengaea, Daemon, mutt" or something like that. If everyone kept to the format, we'd have a very easily searcheable database... we could even create some kind of pedigree using those indented bullets that wiki's seem to have lots of! :D
But honestly, I'd rather start a whole new one for it, rather then use the old. I don't like that it's hosted by someone who we can't get ahold of, even if he was nice the whole time the Knux fiasco was abroad. It would be nice if we could set up keywords so that searching was easy. Say... instead of saying "Avengaean Daemon half breed" we could say "Avengaea, Daemon, mutt" or something like that. If everyone kept to the format, we'd have a very easily searcheable database... we could even create some kind of pedigree using those indented bullets that wiki's seem to have lots of! :D
Auugh, I missed some of the posts in there... ><; Sorry!
I was thinking for the wiki, even something like having a scarily huge list-o-dragons alphabetized or something, and you could find the dragon you're researching. Then its page could be something like,
parent1 x parent2
DRAGON sibling sibling sibling etc
x mate1
* chillun chillun chillun
x mate2
* chillun chillun chillun etc etc etc
Bare bones and simple, but you could trace them back a lonnng way through linkhopping.
oO I think one has to have a server to have a wiki though?
I was thinking for the wiki, even something like having a scarily huge list-o-dragons alphabetized or something, and you could find the dragon you're researching. Then its page could be something like,
parent1 x parent2
DRAGON sibling sibling sibling etc
x mate1
* chillun chillun chillun
x mate2
* chillun chillun chillun etc etc etc
Bare bones and simple, but you could trace them back a lonnng way through linkhopping.
oO I think one has to have a server to have a wiki though?
I'm currently looking for ways on how to create a wiki. o_O Never done this before!
I'd like to see something that lists some more pertinent info about the dragon in question, as well as their relations. I know it's supposed to be all about lineage, but there may be two Narmeth's or whatever. That way it can also function as a generic searcheable database. o.o How's that sound?
And, hey, anything can be moved over to a more permanent source, if anyone is interested in creating a database from scratch!
I'd like to see something that lists some more pertinent info about the dragon in question, as well as their relations. I know it's supposed to be all about lineage, but there may be two Narmeth's or whatever. That way it can also function as a generic searcheable database. o.o How's that sound?
And, hey, anything can be moved over to a more permanent source, if anyone is interested in creating a database from scratch!
X3 I think the problem is that the more information you ask for, the fewer people are going to take part. Since this is such a voluntary thing, more information = more time-consuming = less dragons added.
Maybe lineage info would be needed, generic info asked for? After all, you could link the dragon's real page from the wiki-lineage-page!
Maybe lineage info would be needed, generic info asked for? After all, you could link the dragon's real page from the wiki-lineage-page!
Hee, if that doesn't work, I've set up a temporary wiki here:
http://nexuspedigree.pbwiki.com
The password is 'dragon', just so you know!
Nothing has been changed yet, but I'll put up a front page and a quick intro on how to make a page for each dragon.
Anyone care to contribute what they'd like to see, here? O_o' I'd like to make the wiki as uniform as possible, so there's not, like... a billion random things that make searching difficult.
Suggestions?
http://nexuspedigree.pbwiki.com
The password is 'dragon', just so you know!
Nothing has been changed yet, but I'll put up a front page and a quick intro on how to make a page for each dragon.
Anyone care to contribute what they'd like to see, here? O_o' I'd like to make the wiki as uniform as possible, so there's not, like... a billion random things that make searching difficult.
Suggestions?
>_< The template is still under major revision, you may have to change it.
JKat and I are looking for ways to make categories, so that you can view dragons listed by colour, breed, gender, etc. etc. etc. Does anyone happen to have Wiki-skeelz? (Phe, I'm looking straight at you! XD) who can prod us in the right direction?
JKat and I are looking for ways to make categories, so that you can view dragons listed by colour, breed, gender, etc. etc. etc. Does anyone happen to have Wiki-skeelz? (Phe, I'm looking straight at you! XD) who can prod us in the right direction?