Winged Cats - Breedings Open

[Starburst]

Pleione (F043): http://www.mysticalplace.com/Starfall/L ... ml#Pleione" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

And a breeding! I /think/ I know where I'm going to go with these... My ideal baby from them is a boy, has pearl eyes, and carries both barless and iridescent @_@

Your Name: Starburst
Contact: molly@mysticalplace.com
Male Cat's Name and ID#: Procyon, M066
Male Cat's URL: http://www.mysticalplace.com/Starfall/L ... ml#Procyon" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Female Cat's Name and ID#: Adhara, F062
Female Cat's URL: http://www.mysticalplace.com/Starfall/L ... tml#Adhara" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Randomize Genetics?: Whichever is best.

[StarFyre]

There we go, finally back on track.

M130: Therlis; M126: Dalziel are now up here: http://www.silveredmagic.com/candis/lig ... _toms.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
F131: Haelli is up here: http://www.silveredmagic.com/candis/lig ... ueens.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Your Name: StarFyre
Contact: starfyre @ silveredmagic . com
Male Cat's Name and ID#: Iogan: M114
Male Cat's URL: http://www.silveredmagic.com/candis/lig ... _toms.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Female Cat's Name and ID#: Sansit: F129
Female Cat's URL: http://www.silveredmagic.com/candis/lig ... ueens.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Randomize Genetics?: Best option

Let's start dragging those scores upwards. Also, Dalziel's domestication score is to die for... now to figure out who to breed him to to drag the other two up without tanking the domestication too far.

[Dray]

JKatina
Well look who dragged the cat in! Here is your breeding between Socko and September. Not especially flashy cats, but if you're aiming towards that Archangel look, the barless will get you a solid-coloured wing at least.

SOCKO (M024) x NOVEMBER (F071) (Sounnds like some kind of B-movie fight-em-up. XD)

(November's added slider stats)
Size: 38
Domestication: 54
Friendliness: 03
Noisiness: 46

(Socko's added slider stats)
Size: 61
Domestication: 65
Friendliness: 90
Noisiness: 25


F148
Name: Up to You
Gender: Female
Breed: Wild
Coat: Ash Red Spread Barless
Eyes: Yellow
Genetic Code:
BA/- (Hemizygous Ash Red)
c//c (Homozygous Barless)
S//S (Homozygous Spread)
+//ma (Carries Mahogany)
+//e (Carries Recessive Red)
+//tr (Yellow Iris, Carries Pearl Iris)
Size: 54
Domestication: 69
Friendliness: 45
Noisiness: 39


M142
Name: Up to You
Gender: Male
Breed: Wild
Coat: Blue Barless
Eyes: Yellow
Genetic Code:
B+//bS (Blue, Carries Smooth Brown)
c//c (Homozygous Barless)
+//ca (Carries Blue-Eyed Albino)
+//ma (Carries Mahogany)
+//e (Carries Recessive Red)
+//+ (Homozygous Yellow Iris)
Size: 47
Domestication: 56
Friendliness: 43
Noisiness: 28


F149
Name: Up to You
Gender: Female
Breed: Wild
Coat: Blue Spread Ticked Tabby and Barless
Eyes: Yellow
Genetic Code:
B+/- (Hemizygous Blue)
TTi//c (Ticked Tabby, Co-Dominant with Barless)
S//+ (Heterozygous Spread)
+//ma (Carries Mahogany)
+//tr (Yellow Iris, Carries Pearl Iris)
Size: 56
Domestication: 69
Friendliness: 48
Noisiness: 38


**F150 - KIRIBAN CAT!**
Name: Up to You
Gender: Female
Breed: Wild
Coat: Ash Red Spread Barless
Eyes: Yellow
Genetic Code:
BA/- (Hemizygous Ash Red)
c//c (Homozygous Barless)
S//+ (Heterozygous Spread)
+//e (Carries Recessive Red)
+//tr (Yellow Iris, Carries Pearl Iris)
Size: 55
Domestication: 61
Friendliness: 41
Noisiness: 42


M143
Name: Up to You
Gender: Male
Breed: Wild
Coat: Ash Red Barless
Eyes: Yellow
Genetic Code:
BA//bS
c//c (Homozygous Barless)
+//+ (Homozygous Yellow Iris)
Size: 46
Domestication: 62
Friendliness: 46
Noisiness: 35

Let me know which cats you wish to keep, and I'll put the rest up for adoption.

**KIRIBAN INFO**
You must page this cat to receive the kiriban prize; if you choose to allow this cat to be adopted out, you cede the kiriban prize to whomever first adopts F150. If you later decide to trade F150, any new owners do not get to claim a kiriban. It's a one-time only prize!

By paging this cat, you have won the right to a female foundation cat of any breed you like. Give me a list of genetic traits that make up this foundation cat, (including ideal Size, Domestication, Friendliness and Noisiness from 0-100) and you'll receive the foundation cat once the current breedings are finished. If you would like help identifying the actual genes you'll need for an ideal cat, give me a description of what you're looking for, or links to example images of various pigeon or cat breeds, and I'll do my best to give you a set of genetics that match what you'd like! Your cat's breed will be listed in the Registry as an official breed*.

**OFFICIAL BREED UNLOCKED**
Congratulations, you have unlocked a new part of the FlappyCatz® game! (To create an 'official breed' cat outside of Kiriban you need to display three successive generations that show the traits you'd like your breed to have. They do not have to be homozygous for these traits, and you can describe a range for Size, Domestication, Friendliness and Noisiness, as well as a range of acceptable colours and patterns.) Now it is time to identify Breed Excellent Standards! When you have have created three successive generations of Excellent Standard cats, your official breed will be considered for a unique image template -- you will be able to describe general shape, size, posture, and potential variations in fur and plumage. At this stage it is possible to begin to determine new and unexpected genetics through the pursuit of excellent standards! Keep an eye to the sky, your flappycatzzzz may surprise you!


Starburst
(Adhara's Slider Stats)
Size: 24
Domestication: 63
Friendliness: 49
Noisiness: 85

(Procyon's Slider Stats)
Size: 24
Domestication: 63
Friendliness: 49
Noisiness: 85

Procyon (M066) x Adhara (F062)

M144
Name: Up to You
Gender: Male
Breed: Wild
Coat: Blue Grizzle Bar
Eyes: Yellow
Genetic Code:
B+//B+ (Homozygous Blue)
C+//c (Barred, Carries Barless)
+//ir (Carries Iridescence)
G//+ (Heterozygous Grizzle)
+//tr (Yellow Iris, Carries Pearl Iris)
Size: 34
Domestication: 70
Friendliness: 73
Noisiness: 70


M145
Name: Up to You
Gender: Male
Breed: Wild
Coat: Blue Grizzle Bar
Eyes: Yellow
Genetic Code:
B+//B+ (Homozygous Blue)
C+//c (Barred, Carries Barless)
+//ir (Carries Iridescence)
G//+ (Heterozygous Grizzle)
+//tr (Yellow Iris, Carries Pearl Iris)
Size: 45
Domestication: 67
Friendliness: 67
Noisiness: 90

Let me know if you'd like one or both of 'em! I had tentatively started randomizing your litter because the other version would yield ever more female cats carrying iridescent! It turns out that by rolling dice I somehow managed two identi-cats! O.o I made a new grizzle pattern for the second so that they wouldn't appear to be direct clones.

ALL Y'ALL
This is your middle-of-the-post warning that we've reached M145 -- M150 will be the next kiriban cat on the block!

StarFyre
I thought that since we've been randomizing things so much lately I'd try an orderly breeding!

Iogan (M114) x Sansit (F129)

M146
Name: Up to You
Gender: Male
Breed: Wild
Coat: Blue Agouti
Eyes: Yellow
Genetic Code:
B+//b (Blue, Carries Brown)
TA//TA (Homozygous Agouti)
+//cs (Carries Pointed)
+//dP (Carries Pale)
+//+ (Homozygous Yellow Iris)
Size: 23
Domestication: 90
Friendliness: 56
Noisiness: 72


F151
Name: Up to You
Gender: Female
Breed: Wild
Coat: Brown Agouti
Eyes: Yellow
Genetic Code:
b/- (Hemizygous Brown)
TA//TA (Homozygous Agouti)
+//cs (Carries Pointed)
+//+ (Homozygous Yellow Iris)
Size: 11
Domestication: 77
Friendliness: 56
Noisiness: 60


M147
Name: Up to You
Gender: Male
Breed: Wild
Coat: Pale Blue Pointed Agouti and Velvet Checker
Eyes: Yellow
Genetic Code:
B+//bl (Blue, Carries Light Brown)
CT//TA (Velvet Checker, Co-Dominant with Agouti)
cs//cs (Homozygous Pointed)
dP//dP (Homozygoups Pale)
+//+ (Homozygous Yellow Iris)
Size: 6
Domestication: 86
Friendliness: 42
Noisiness: 80


F152
Name: Up to You
Gender: Female
Breed: Wild
Coat: Fawn Pointed Velvet Checker and Agouti
Eyes: Yellow
Genetic Code:
bl/- (Hemizygous Light Brown)
CT//TA (Velvet Checker, Co-Dominant with Agouti)
cs//cs (Homozygous Pointed)
dP/- (Hemizgyous Pale)
+//+ (Homozygous Yellow Iris)
Size: 5
Domestication: 95
Friendliness: 44
Noisiness: 71

Lemme know which you'd like to keep and which you'd like to send out into the world!

[StarFyre]

Unf, I officially <3 blue agouti. Like, seriously, <3.

I will claim M146, M147, and F152 (and dear LORD those last two are small! *fussfuss at the tinycats*)

Aaand up.

M146: Ailion; M147: Eodach are up: http://www.silveredmagic.com/candis/lig ... _toms.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
F152: Decia is up: http://www.silveredmagic.com/candis/lig ... ueens.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Your Name: StarFyre
Contact: starfyre @ silveredmagic . com
Male Cat's Name and ID#: Ailion: M146
Male Cat's URL: http://www.silveredmagic.com/candis/lig ... _toms.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Female Cat's Name and ID#: Decia: F152
Female Cat's URL: http://www.silveredmagic.com/candis/lig ... ueens.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Randomize Genetics?: Best option

*shoves scores upwards*

[Shard]

Pretty soon you're going to have to start calling them tribbles, because omg they're small enough to be.

[StarFyre]

My Minese will have a Size score of no more than 20 to qualify, I have decided. I'm kind of wondering if I can fudge the scores enough so that my first official Minese is Size: 1 =P

[Shard]

That's not mini, that's microscopic!

[StarFyre]

HEY! Teacup-cats are cool!

[Shard]

hehhe meanwhile I could probably start upping the size on mine in order to freakin breed them to the cheetahs... heh!

[Dray]

I think the more appropriate term would be 'tub-buckets' actually~

[Starburst]

Man, I was really hoping for the kiriban that time x3 Ah well. I would actually like to try breeding the same pair again before definitively claiming one, if that's okay (I'll edit this with a form if it is indeed okay for me to do that)!

Edit - Dray, is it an error that Procyon and Adhara have identical sets of slider stats? XD

[Shard]

Oooh ooh if you're not going to take them, can I snag M145?

[Starburst]

You have my blessing on that one, Shard! c:

[Shard]

*cough* well then, ... um. Strep (m145) is on my loft2 page.

*snerk*

[Dray]

StarFyre
Alas, looks like the size scores were the main ones that got shoved up!

Ailion (M146) x Decia (M152)

F153
Name: Up to You
Gender: Female
Breed: Wild
Coat: Blue Pointed Agouti and Velvet Checker
Eyes: Yellow
Genetic Code:
B+/- (Hemizygous Blue)
CT//TA (Agouti, Carries Velvet Checker)
cs//cs (Homozygous Pointed)
+//+ (Homozygous Yellow Iris)
Size: 12
Domestication: 100
Friendliness: 51
Noisiness: 78


F154
Name: Up to You
Gender: Female
Breed: Wild
Coat: Blue Pointed Agouti and Velvet Checker
Eyes: Yellow
Genetic Code:
B+/- (Hemizygous Blue)
CT//TA (Agouti, Carries Velvet Checker)
cs//cs (Homozygous Pointed)
+//+ (Homozygous Yellow Iris)
Size: 22
Domestication: 85
Friendliness: 55
Noisiness: 73


M148
Name: Up to You
Gender: Male
Breed: Wild
Coat: Blue Pointed Agouti and Velvet Checker
Eyes: Yellow
Genetic Code:
B+//bl (Blue, Carries Light Brown)
CT//TA (Agouti, Carries Velvet Checker)
cs//cs (Homozygous Pointed)
+/dP (Carries Pale)
+//+ (Homozygous Yellow Iris)
Size: 19
Domestication: 84
Friendliness: 46
Noisiness: 71


M149
Name: Up to You
Gender: Male
Breed: Wild
Coat: Khaki Agouti and Velvet Checker
Eyes: Yellow
Genetic Code:
b//bl (Brown, Carries Light Brown)
CT//TA (Agouti, Carries Velvet Checker)
+//cs (Carries Pointed)
dP//dP (Homozygous Pale)
+//+ (Homozygous Yellow Iris)
Size: 17
Domestication: 94
Friendliness: 55
Noisiness: 64


Starburst
Starburst, here are the Procyon/Adhara stats as I have 'em on my big-ole-pile-of-babies doc!

(adhara)
B+/- (Hemizygous Blue)
CT//C+ (Velvet Checker, Carries Barred)
+//ir (Carries Iridescent)
+//tr (Carries Pearl Iris)
Size: 24
Domestication: 63
Friendliness: 49
Noisiness: 85

(procyon)
B+//B+ (Homozygous Blue)
CT//c (Velvet Checker, Carries Barless)
G//G (Homozygous Grizzle)
tr//tr (Homozygous Pearl Iris)
Size: 47
Domestication: 73
Friendliness: 94
Noisiness: 74

Also, I don't know why you keep only getting two babies out of the random size generator. o.O Maybe Adhara and Procyon aren't very fertile for some reason? XD

PROCYON (M066) x ADHARA (F062)


**M150 - KIRIBAN CAT!**
Name: Up to You
Gender: Male
Breed: Wild
Coat: Blue Grizzle Velvet Checker
Eyes: Pearl Iris
Genetic Code:
B+//B+ (Homozygous Blue)
CT//C+ (Velvet Checker, Carries Barred)
G//+ (Heterozygous Grizzle)
tr//tr (Homozygous Pearl Iris)
Size: 11
Domestication: 83
Friendliness: 61
Noisiness: 84


F155
Name: Up to You
Gender: Female
Breed: Wild
Coat: Blue Grizzle Velvet Checker
Eyes: Yellow
Genetic Code:
B+/- (Hemizygous Blue)
CT//c (Velvet Checker, Carries Barless)
G//+ (Heterozygous Grizzle)
+//ir (Carries Iridescent)
+//tr (Yellow Iris, Carries Pearl Iris)
Size: 24
Domestication: 75
Friendliness: 62
Noisiness: 84

(And just to re-iterate, from JKat's post:)
**KIRIBAN INFO**
You must page this cat to receive the kiriban prize; if you choose to allow this cat to be adopted out, you cede the kiriban prize to whomever first adopts F150. If you later decide to trade F150, any new owners do not get to claim a kiriban. It's a one-time only prize!

By paging this cat, you have won the right to a female foundation cat of any breed you like. Give me a list of genetic traits that make up this foundation cat, (including ideal Size, Domestication, Friendliness and Noisiness from 0-100) and you'll receive the foundation cat once the current breedings are finished. If you would like help identifying the actual genes you'll need for an ideal cat, give me a description of what you're looking for, or links to example images of various pigeon or cat breeds, and I'll do my best to give you a set of genetics that match what you'd like! Your cat's breed will be listed in the Registry as an official breed*. You may wish to include several acceptable colours and patterns so that you can start to refine standards of excellence!

**OFFICIAL BREED UNLOCKED**
Congratulations, you have unlocked a new part of the FlappyCatz® game! (To create an 'official breed' cat outside of Kiriban you need to display three successive generations that show the traits you'd like your breed to have. They do not have to be homozygous for these traits, and you can describe a range for Size, Domestication, Friendliness and Noisiness, as well as a range of acceptable colours and patterns.) Now it is time to identify Breed Excellent Standards! When you have have created three successive generations of Excellent Standard cats, your official breed will be considered for a unique image template -- you will be able to describe general shape, size, posture, and potential variations in fur and plumage. At this stage it is possible to begin to determine new and unexpected genetics through the pursuit of excellent standards! Keep an eye to the sky, your flappycatzzzz may surprise you!


Shard
I gotcher cat up in the Registry. Thanks!

[Starburst]

I'm okay with them only having two if it means I get a kiriban! :3 I will claim M150 in the interest of getting a cat of my future breed. He'll be up soon.

The ideal Black Opal definitely has the following:
- Homozygous/Hemizygous Black
- Homozygous Barless
- Homozygous Iridescence
- Homozygous Pearl Iris

As for traits, I haven't given it much thought yet. I can get back to you on it after M150 is paged, if you'd like!

[Dray]

Yes please! I'll need them in order to make your kiriban-prize cat!

Also, do you want any of your other cats from the last two breedings? Shall I put 'em up for adoption?

[Starburst]

M150 (Tejat) is paged: http://www.mysticalplace.com/Starfall/L ... html#Tejat" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

I'm okay with you putting the rest of the cats from my breedings up for adoption, as well!

And these are the cats I don't have trait lists for yet on their pages:
F013, Vega
F014, Gemma
M020, Deneb
F043, Pleione
F052, Capella
M053, Altair
F053, Mira
F064, Taygeta
M131, Aldebaran

As for the Black Opals: so far I've got average size (between 40 and 60, ideally) and high domestication (75+ ideal). I looked at a page about Bombay cats for inspiration on the other two, and it says that they "can be quite talkative and meow alot at times like when you get home from work or wake up in the morning, for example" -- that makes a high noisiness score something to shoot for, and my cats for the project seem to be breeding well for that, so it works out nicely in my favour.

I know this means shooting for high scores overall, but they're apparently very affectionate cats, too! I guess I'm looking for an average-sized housecat with high scores in the other traits. XD Hopefully that works for you!

[Dray]

I just wanted everyone to know that I have added two genes to the genetics page! 'Spotted Tabby' is a pattern that causes Mackerel and Classic Tabby to be broken up into spots and rosettes respectively. It interacts with wing-patterns by extending them out towards the body in a more broken-up manner. When displayed homozygously, it causes a strange freckled pattern much like this dude.

I have also added a dominant autosomal gene called 'Archangel Bronze'. You can read more about it at the American Archangel Club Standards webpage; essentially, this gene is named after a breed of pigeon that displays bronze across its head, body and legs, leaving the tail and wings their original colour. When Heterozygous this gene leaves bronze patches and can bleed into the other colours/patterns of the cat. Good, strong Archangel Bronze needs to be co-dominant to show good edging across the whole body. It looks best when paired with Iridescent and Gimpel because the whole body gains a metallic pinkish colour, sort of coppery looking. When dilute this gene turns into a creamy gold.

Starburst, I'll get on your cat-naming business ASAP! I know I've added stats to some of those cats. Just have to re-dig them up.

[JKatkina]

Hey! So finally I got up to paging some cats. I'm going to claim F149 and F150 from Rocko and November's litter. I've named them Nonce and Torrent, and they're up here: http://avengaea.com/characters/kloft1.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; in the Queens section.

As for the kiriban breed starter... >:D I am going to have to consider for a bit, but I have an Idea.

[Dray]

Vega (F013)
Size: 5
Domestication: 88
Friendliness: 15
Noisiness: 75

Gemma (F014)
Size: 01
Domestication: 72
Friendliness: 17
Noisiness: 23

Deneb (M020)
Size: 96
Domestication: 09
Friendliness: 69
Noisiness: 90

Pleione (F043)
Size: 48
Domestication: 14
Friendliness: 93
Noisiness: 26

Capella (F052)
Size: 44
Domestication: 38
Friendliness: 78
Noisiness: 79

Altair (M053)
Size: 78
Domestication: 91
Friendliness: 64
Noisiness: 74

Mira (F053)
Size: 19
Domestication: 65
Friendliness: 37
Noisiness: 34

Taygeta (F064)
Size: 98
Domestication: 67
Friendliness: 37
Noisiness: 100

Aldebaran (M131)
Size: 54
Domestication: 24
Friendliness: 42
Noisiness: 87

(Working on the Black Opal sheet for the registry as well as your cat, SB! Thanks JKat, I'll toss your two up on the registry page and put the rest up for adoption.)

[Dray]

Starburst
Here is your Kiriban Prize Cat!


M151
Name: Up to You
Gender: Male
Breed: Black Opal
Coat: Iridescent Black
Eyes: Pearl
Genetic Code:
BB//BB (Homozygous Black)
c//c (Homozygous Barless)
ir//ir (Homozygous Iridescent)
tr/tr (Homozygous Pearl Iris)
Size: 50
Domestication: 95
Friendliness: 95
Noisiness: 90
Standard: ?? (Not Rated Yet)**

**Cats are given standards of excellence at flappycat flappypoluzas! That is to say, when we have enough cats of a couple of breeds gathered together, you may submit your favourites for a vote. Everyone who wants to judge may then vote for what they think fits the standard best, and those votes will be tallied into a series: Excellent > Superior > Good > Inferior. I have to figure out how to set up entry fees as I would like to have some amount of exchange happening in this process -- if people submit cats judged inferior, there should be some relative loss, whereas those who submit Excellents should have some sort of gain! I may set up a Research Bank -- you pick some parameter within your cats to research and if you consecutively get Excellents submitted, the points garnered will unlock new insights into that gene or something? I dunno, whatcha think would be fun to make the game tricky but still interesting to strive for better breedings?

JKat: Thanks, I'll get those two up -- but official lofts only allow 10 cats per page. As it stands, your cats are beginning to look a little cooped up. They may want for more space!

[Yakima]

ITS BLUE!!!!!

[Starburst]

Oh my GOD that is a gorgeous cat!!!

I will have him paged soon. That looks exactly like I wanted the breed to look x3

[Dray]

If you'd like to start thinking about anything else that you'd like to see in the breed (even if it's not currently listed in the genetics page, and especially if there is precedent for it in the pigeon or cat world of colours, patterns or body-shapes) let me know! Similarly if you would like to allow alternate versions for your black opals (for example, the Archangel pigeon allows every kind of wing pattern, as well as dilute and normal versions) I can include them as options in the breed. I'm glad you like! That greenish/bluish shade is very common for that colour. In order to get the pink/purple version there should probably be some futzing around. Perhaps a 'discovery' of an allele off of Iridescent will have to be researched, or if you want certain parts of the body to reflect green/blue and others purple/pink, that could be something to work towards as well!

[Yakima]

I feel like being evil and asking for a pure black or white cat...mwahaha! *coughs* OH, dray, I put some links on the Bower Thread...I noticed one of my dragons were abandoned so I put her back up. Probably when I lost my old domain...*shrugs*

[Starburst]

I think I'd probably be okay with variant Black Opals in different base colours, actually, the same way that you very occasionally see a liver, lemon, or blue Dalmatian dog. It'd be a neat rarity. They wouldn't be "show-standard," obviously, but they'd be cool to see. I'd go for the Smooth Distribution Pigments (Orange or 'Fire Opal,' Smooth Brown, and Light Brown). Say one such cat was Extreme Dilute: it'd be dubbed 'White Opal' although it'd still technically be part of the breed.

Also, does Iridescent show up over white? I think that'd be a really nifty look. :3