Wolfkeep questions and opinions?

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sat Nov 28, 2009 10:25 pm

Hi all! I've been thinking for a while about starting up my own Wolfkeep, since they seem to be so popular around here right now and also because I happen to really like the winged wolves.

So I wanted to ask some general opinion questions of people before I put all the work into it, to help me get a general idea of what I'm doing.

First off, how many people would want another wolfkeep around? The ones that already exist are awesome, and I more want this question to mean, would it be more appealing to some people if I did something about mine differently than others that already exist?

Then also, I tend to like operating within my own set of "rules" more than following others, so my next question would be, how would people feel if I made up a new breed or breeds of winged wolf for my site? (as in, basically making up a new world for mine). So far my ideas were to make a new breed that tended toward being small and having very bright colors (like songbirds, kinda), or maybe a breed with patterned bat-wings (since I suck at drawing feathers XD) Or would people rather I stick within the ones other people already are using?

That's it.

Please let me know! Thanks for reading!

Shard · Post by **Shard** » Sat Nov 28, 2009 10:45 pm

I would love it. I think we need a little variety in the wolves, similar to how we've also got our different breeds of dragons. Fur/skin wings would make sense if the species evolved 'naturally', without magic to change one animal into something new I think.

Post by **Dray** » Sun Nov 29, 2009 9:29 am

The draw to winged wolves for me is purely a 'ooh, shiny and easy to make more of!' one, rather than an in story 'these guys are badass characters!' one. XD Because if that, I'd be more happy to adopt ones that have feathers simply because then I don't have to go in and start altering templates or making new ones in order to pump more of my own out -- I can already do that with dragons, and I come back to the wolves because they're easier!

Of course, I think that's probably a minority opinion. From an in character standpoint, I agree with Shard. I do like the idea of song bird colours... I'm curious to see where you take that!

Yakima · Post by **Yakima** » Sun Nov 29, 2009 12:52 pm

Shard · Post by **Shard** » Sun Nov 29, 2009 12:59 pm

What we each like to do and don't like is up to us, Yakima. The winged wolves are just as fun and interesting to most of us as dragons are, and they certainly have their place among our collected pets.

Hell the glowy-winged female I just introduced I got *from deviantart* from someone who just drew a bunch of winged wolf designs. They're not limited to just here, they're all over the place. Your wolves with their stories and magic are *yours*, and we respect that. But I think we all would like to make something with our own 'take' on it, and isn't that what sharing our stuff here is about? (not to mention: we need more gene pools

)

Myrror · Post by **Myrror** » Sun Nov 29, 2009 1:26 pm

I do have my Stormbringer wolves, which can have wings--both dragony and feathered--as well as a few other traits. I wouldn't mind them being interbred, though I think because of the horns and different tails and such, they haven't been.

So, go wild, I say. ^^

Yakima · Post by **Yakima** » Sun Nov 29, 2009 1:50 pm

Like is said.

I DON"T CARE ANYMORE.

Guest · Post by **Guest** » Sun Nov 29, 2009 1:57 pm

Jesus.

Rather than reply to this, I'm simply going to say that I'm going to cancel my plans to open a wolfkeep or anything similar to one. My intention was just to ask everyone here what they thought, and never to offend anyone.

JKatkina · Post by **JKatkina** » Sun Nov 29, 2009 4:09 pm

Erinnyes, I don't think you should cancel your wolfkeep if it's something you want to do. :o It might be neat to see different types of wolves out there in the Nexus! A different species, or what-all. I've always thought it made more sense for them to be bat-winged anyway. :D I'm not that into the wolf thing, myself, but I don't think you should give up on it just because of one bad response. <:)

Post by **Dray** » Sun Nov 29, 2009 4:11 pm

Rats! I was hoping to see some more critters out of you, Erinnyes!

I don't know... I don't think that Yakima has a monopoly on wolves with wings on 'em. The particular breeds, though, sure! If she doesn't want your hypothetical guys, and Shard's, and, hell, the original template I had was originally for Wajas! XD then there can just be specifications or something! Kind of like with Myrror's Dyrmyst dragons or... I guess my Merideti, where X breed/species can't breed with Y and have offspring?

delyar · Post by **delyar** » Sun Nov 29, 2009 4:33 pm

Just because one person consistently has a royal fit when people so much as whisper about changing "her" stuff, doesn't mean your concept is unappreciated Erinnyes. I think it sounds cool, and I'd love to see more variation in the winged wolves!

Yakima · Post by **Yakima** » Sun Nov 29, 2009 4:42 pm

For the record, I already PM'ed her and told her she could. I wasn't mad at her, I was upset at some other things. I still am but I'll always be the omega here no matter the issue. I was never against other breeds. I just don't see why we have to have so many. But, if you want the wolves as complicated and confusing as the dragons, fine. I know all of you have species of dragons that you don't want certian things done with. Sorry if I'm protective over the five...six...breeds I have. For all I care, you can all go make your own. Until I feel otherwise, I have Alair offline while I redo info that no one ever seems to read anyway. This place just likes collecting pretty creautres so go for it. I give up. here and RL. *shrugs*

JKatkina · Post by **JKatkina** » Sun Nov 29, 2009 4:49 pm

*facepalm* Animals with added wings have been done hundreds of times by hundreds of different people, just like dragons have. They're compelling to people, they're interesting. Heck, when I was 13 I "made up" a species of cats with wings. No one's messing with your species, they are just using an idea that's been around for a million years. Erinnyes never had to have your permission, because 'winged wolf' is not a distinct species, it's a description. If she had used, say, 'Elruvian' or something specific like that, your frustration might be justified, but she didn't.

Post by **Dray** » Sun Nov 29, 2009 4:53 pm

Why do you get so angry so quickly over small things? You were creating a brand new breed recently, or so you said. What's one more kicking around the Nexus? What difference does it make?

And for eff's sake, if you keep putting stuff up and taking things down based on how angry you are at somebody on a particular day, I'm going to throw my damned computer out the window. Just because we don't say we're using your information doesn't mean that we're not. I've been referencing the various species you put up on a regular basis, and I get sick when you take that shit down and then get pissed at us for not following it. :c

Stop being the omega, if that's how you feel. Take a deep breath before you say something if it's pissing you off, think of logical and reasonable ways to express your doubts or frustrations, and then write things out that way. If you're feeling like the piss-on of the totem pole it's because you send us snappy PM's repeatedly that tailor directly to your emotions and fail to predict how we're going to feel in reaction to what you have to say.

Not that I expect you to stick around, read this through in it's entirely, and respond in a way that reflects that. >:I For what it's worth, I feel that your information should stay up if you want us to use it. I don't see how Erinnyes creating a wolfkeep with a new breed is going to fuck things up, save that it's going to cause you to lose your monopoly of Nexus-based sparkle-dogs. Take a step back from that; your creatures are still popular and we still like them, it's not like Erinnyes is going to take over the world just because she's making critters that don't follow your stated codes of conduct.

Yakima · Post by **Yakima** » Sun Nov 29, 2009 5:25 pm

Fine, I'll put the info back up. And I may not really be the omega, but I'm a lone wolf and I prefer it that way. *shrugs* I'm tired of fighting. I do find some of this funny being that Erinnyes and I have been PM'ing each other and the result seems to be different then what you all assume.

I'm putting the info back up - the entire site. Here's the deal. What you see there are what is. If you don't like that or want something different, make your own breed. *shrugs* And, the "new species" were there for a while, though I don't know if I ever stuck them online officaially. I had five wolves from an RPG that died and I lost all the info to. The were "unknown" until I got sick of them being so mystierious and named them. It's my last and finally addition. (other then the one that's been plauging my mind for years...ones with crystaline wings that are transparent...>.<) I just don't feel like some people are even following that info. The Reriran wolves, for example. There magic should not be set. It grows and changes with the wolf. It can heighten, say, Elruvian magic which is set. Every wolf breed is different, I've tried to do that on purpose. They never use to be, between the magical ones, but I was trying to get some diversity for all of you.

I'm sorry I snapped. You're right, Dray. Remind me to never post when I'm depressed and have no way to fight it in a way that helps. I have a hole in my chest and don't know what to do with it.

And, just for the records...can you all tell me what info pages (meaning Alair and such) you need "now"? I'm behind on some and such but will try to get them...somewhere...for you. [yeah, Yakima, just put them ALL up, you dolt].

>.<

Shard · Post by **Shard** » Sun Nov 29, 2009 5:55 pm

What information I'd love to see from you, Yakima, is perhaps just a table of what breeds show what traits (size, magic, color types, etc) so that I can keep them straight.

I lurve your wolves, but I love mine too lol, so I'd like to have as many different breeds as there are those of us making em

Yakima · Post by **Yakima** » Sun Nov 29, 2009 6:00 pm

um....okay...not sure if I'm following that one, Shard. What you want seems to be what I already have...Colors and such would be, in much more detail, on the code page. size and magic is on the breed info pages.

http://www.alair-wolfkeep.wolf-mage.com/d_info.html
http://www.alair-wolfkeep.wolf-mage.com/d_code.html

aireona93 · Post by **aireona93** » Sun Nov 29, 2009 6:06 pm

This is semi-random, but do you have the info up on your dragon species, Yakima? Like the Ortari and the Gem Dragons and what not.

Yakima · Post by **Yakima** » Sun Nov 29, 2009 6:09 pm

I'll throw up what I have, Aireona...I'm behind on them...>.< They will be up at this link...in a bit.

http://www.wolf-mage.com/anarendor

Shard · Post by **Shard** » Sun Nov 29, 2009 6:14 pm

Ah there you go, I knew I'd seen something like that info.

>_>

/threadjack!

Yakima · Post by **Yakima** » Sun Nov 29, 2009 6:18 pm

Heh...yeah, it was actually put up a few weeks ago when Alair was put back up.

One reason I'm taking so long is because I've discovered the wonderful-ness of CSS. I thought it was SOOO cool to just pick up a characters' html page, plop it in a new folder, and have everything changed without me doing anything. (tables, bk, colors, ect). And...I figured out what I was doing wrong with CSS that FF hated so...

I even have all my winged wolves for the FGPC paged.

They are the first group to be finished. >.< save I decided to add color to there info like the dragons.

Post by **Dray** » Sun Nov 29, 2009 6:23 pm

I liked having the dragon info up, too.

I think that the five d_info(insert breed here).html files were the ones I was using. Sorry about the magic, though. XD I just figured that since the parents had one type, and I don't have a proper wolfkeep and people to teach the pups, the reririans would most likely learn what magic was available to be taught! From what I gathered, it was the teaching that was most important, rather than the 'oh hai, new random ability here!' I'll mix that up if you'd rather.

As for the hole, I don't know what to suggest. This time of the year is hard for a lot of people... I know that it can seem weird, but talking to a counselor might help to get things figured out? Sometimes they help, sometimes not so much... either way, it's good to have a professional to talk at, since internet folks like us sometimes can't understand why someone's angry or take it personally and lash back instead of being helpful. >_>

Yakima · Post by **Yakima** » Sun Nov 29, 2009 7:01 pm

I wouldn't have money for a counsolor and I would rather not. I have done that in the past and it just annoyed me. *shrugs* Only time can take care of anything.

Reririan magic, Dray, is just magic that can be directed for a certian type, like fire or water, but dosn't mean that a pup has to learn what there parents know. Teaching there pups would mean teaching them to use it. A pup would probably figure out what element they like best after experimenting. Magic is thought/emotion based. It reacts, often no spells attached. A spell mage is considered stronger because they direct the magic and have control over it. Most of my wolves end up being Mages, which means yeah, they can use magic and may have a lot in there blood to use, but they don't know much about it. They can pull pranks on people and what not. Magic is meant to be used to fight with, at least most Elemental Mages are. A Fire, Water, Earth, Air, Light and Dark Mages may come together to create a Circle which gives them a boost in power and an advantage in battle. They are not well known these days and the City of Mages have people believing that only High and Arch Mages can form them. That's not true but no one has told anyone otherwise. For what we have in the Nexus, most wolves would not have a reason to choose an element and become an Elemental Mage. A simple Mage is good enough. A Spell Mage, Rune Mage or a Common Mage are also good choices. (Common Mages can use both spells and runes-yes there is a differeance). They make very good defenses and the typical stuff you may see in Harry Potter. XD A Master Mage can use all the elments equally (Elemental Mages really only focus on one), but have a preferance for one element. High Mages is a Master Mage who can also use Spells and or Runes to heighten there strength. Arch Mages (which none of your wolves are going to be able to get to unless they spend a few years in Thyrayyah, the Mage City), are a Master Mage, so they are specific in one element (also refered to by it), Spell mage and Rune Mage of the highest training. Segarra and Aria are Arch Mages. Alynn is only a High Mage (but his time with Arch Mages could make him one...)

*takes a breather* What you've been doing isn't necasarilly wrong. Perhaps let the person who gets the wolf choose, expecially if they get them as a puppy. *shrugs*

*goes back to genetic code example page* I'm currently undecided of keeping the H and B codes...>.<

aireona93 · Post by **aireona93** » Sun Nov 29, 2009 7:52 pm

Thanks, Yakima!!!

Kitsuneko · Post by **Kitsuneko** » Sun Nov 29, 2009 8:07 pm

I'll keep that info in mind in the future. I never got around to actually saying so, but for the latest couple of litters, I kinda went on the assumption that the magic listed on their stats is their preferred element (if they have one), though it was also partly that I didn't want to stray too far from what was already out there and possibly get something wrong.