Abstract Destiny

Myrror · Post by **Myrror** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 3:08 am

Ah, drat, I was thinking we had an extra day...

Post by **DragonFlight** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 5:25 am

~Peers at flight story~

.....I had no idea that Chime was so 'unpleasant' when I submitted him. x_x

Mystic Dragon · Post by **Mystic Dragon** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 8:05 am

>.< Dang it. I was counting on the am deadline for the end of the day. Oh well, I'll have to send my three somewhere else.

Oh yeah. I'm back. I've just been silent so that I could work on stuff such as candidate stories.

Astra · Post by **Astra** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 8:34 am

Yeah Phe I don't mean to be a butt-face or whatever but I was POSITIVE that in previous AD clutches the deadline was at the end of the day ... maybe I'm just halluninating :-/ Not that it effects me because I already got my candidate in (though I would have liked more, haha), it just seems strange is all.

Xenoqueen · Post by **Xenoqueen** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 9:05 am

Nope. My deadlines are always 3 AM, which is the beginning of the day named. The only thing that changed this time around is the fact that the deadline was early Friday morning, rather than early Saturday morning--a change I made since I am now working, and wanted to maximize my free time to work on the hatching. Establishing the deadline prior to the weekend means all the candidates are in and I don't have to worry about stragglers as I'm trying to distribute dragons.

But change from Friday to Saturday or now, the exact deadline-time is always listed on the front page of my site and in the first post of this thread, and I try to always give some sort of 24-hours notice when the deadline is near. If people misinterpret the deadlines, I'm sorry, but there's nothing much more I can do to make them clearer.

LakotaWolf · Post by **LakotaWolf** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 4:32 pm

DragonFlight wrote:~Peers at flight story~

.....I had no idea that Chime was so 'unpleasant' when I submitted him. x_x

Maybe you should have written up even a tiny bit of personality for him, then, if you didn't want people to make assumptions about his personality >_>;

Post by **Dray** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 4:38 pm

*offers muffins to everyone*

...and some lemonade:

:O

Yakima · Post by **Yakima** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 4:45 pm

*pats Dray* Thanks, but I still feel lousy for 'promising' those three and not being able to make it in. I was planning on finishing them quick after camping. I had the plot planned and the story started, there pages done and now they'll probably sit on my harddrive for a while until I either use them or close all my sites. *shrug* I suddenly don't care about sending candidates anywhere now. For some reason, the Nexus isn't as 'fun' as it use to be for me. *shrugs* And since I seem to be ignored left and right even when I don't rant, well, why bother.

And as for the deadline I work 8-4 Monday through Friday and now on Saturday at the stable so that deadline may work for you, Phe, but not all of us. Not that I care. It's your agency and though I may let people squeeze by but of course I have to beg to get candidates. You don't so I guess that works for you. Truthfully, I don't have any inspiration to send anyone to AD anymore because of the deadline being so early in the morning.

*vanishs into shadows*

*Segs steals a muffin or two before following*

Shadow · Post by **Shadow** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 4:53 pm

*steals a muffin, some leomonade, and a lemon* I stole them 'cause I don't think you'd want them back if i borrowed them!

Indigo · Post by **Indigo** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 5:05 pm

*steals some lemonade and a muffin then runs to the nearest depressed person and snugs them* My mom would say it's the moon or something. :/

Myrror · Post by **Myrror** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 5:06 pm

Well, technically, the clutch has been up for two months...if not more.

DNS · Post by **DNS** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 5:09 pm

psteals the rest of the lemons-

LEMONADE! And MUFFINS!

i want blueberry muffins now.

and ;-; -hugs yakima- I don't mean to ignore you. ^^; I just don't interact with you much cuz you're always busy. is there anything I can do to help?

Yakima · Post by **Yakima** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 5:16 pm

Myrror wrote:Well, technically, the clutch has been up for two months...if not more.

Yes, and I've had them ready for months just life kept me busy and I was always tired. *shrugs* I'm not complaning, persay, just venting [to thin air, I think sometimes]. Though I do feel better about myself knowing that when I ran the deadline for the Shimmer Frenzy I threw in an extra day because I know that life dons't help. Of course, I had to beg, plea and nearly threaten to close to get candidates and even opened it up to sponsers which I never wanted to do. Yes, Yakima may be closing her sites because there are other places that seem to get more attention without causing a scene.

Shadow · Post by **Shadow** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 5:23 pm

Don't close! I don't want just ONE Yakima Dragon! *hugs* Are there any open clutches at any of your sites?

DNS · Post by **DNS** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 5:27 pm

That last minute rush happens with everywhere, I think. Except my sites, but then again, I tried to get everyone who was going to participate fairly early on, and pernese dragons aren't that popular anymore. X.x I myself try to get candidates in early on, but that's only cuz of forgetfullness. ;-;

I love your sites though, and your art is some of the best around nexus. Seriously, it was from either yours or kitsuneko's site I got the link here from, and I've been marveling at your flitter generators and your dragons for over a year. If you do go, I'll miss you, and if i had half the chance and it was allowed, I'd populate your worlds with bonders myself. ^^;

Not that I expect that to be very comforting, but yeah. real life can be a bitch, and i'm prolly gonna miss things while i'm in cali, so it happens to all of us. ;-; I'm sorry for the frustratingness. it happens.

-hugglegnaw0

Yakima · Post by **Yakima** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 5:40 pm

The sad thing is with the Shimmer Frenzy I had that deadline for over two or three months and the entre thing has been up for over a year. That was depressing. And I know darn well I should just cancel the Falas one because Pern dragons seem 'boring' now next to other agencies. I get very involved with the stores for my Pern characters and have realized that Pern dragons are probably cooler then other species because of there limitations and such. But that's just me - I love the greens because they are the most imporant ones. I hate the bisexual thing, though. *makes face* But I work around it.

I have a clutch at Falas, and two at the Shimmer Frenzy, Shadow. I have three gryphon clutches planned at Arminas, too, and even if Arminas is ready to go up and start bonding and such, I'm locking LSI up until it is completly finished. *slaps hand* Heck, Falas Weyr is getting a makeover and the FGPC's layout got a few tweeks, too. I'm so busy I can't concentrate. And to those that have candidates in the Shimmer Frenzy that want to write stories, go for it. I have no clue when I'll be able to slow down to work on that. Segs has forgotten the word 'STAY!', and chains don't work on this muse-wolf...heh...

Post by **Dray** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 9:23 pm

Like DNS said, the last-minute rush is something that tends to happen everywhere, whether or not the clutch was a popular one. With tonnes of giveaways and similar dragons being given out, people seem to have become overwhelmed with paging dragons and writing for them, somewhere along the way, which is perhaps another reason as to why there isn't so much activity on the story-front. Add to that the fact that it's hard to fill up clutches that are larger then 10 dragons (x.x' I learned my lesson with the BWR and making big clutches, eesh.), and that could be some of the reasons that things haven't been going hotly.

Perhaps it's that frenzies are coming down off of their popularity-peak or something, but it seems like it's been more difficult to fill 'em up. Or perhaps the deadline-instead-of-clutch-filling spin on dragoning has become more popular, I'm not certain. I agree that it's kind of... really sad that so many people have had their candidates stacked up and ready to send in, only to discover that the deadline is 3AM instead of PM or whateve (Here, I had thought that it was Friday evening, too. o.O), but with a clutch of that size and with that much work that has to go into moving candidates around, I can see where Phe'd be a hard-ass about wanting to keep things orderly.

If you were looking for AD dragons, you could always send them into the next clutch. If you're looking for Aven-types, well, there are lots of them puttering about the Nexus, so a future clutch would probably yield you one (and you guys know that JKat's Avengaea site is open again, right? I'm pretty sure that she's waiting for people to just send in candidates in order to start pairing them off, again! I also know from a relatively secure source (XD) that she may very well use some of the cross-breed templates that she sent in to Phe, but custom-coloured, to give away from Sanctuary. So: There you have it, you miss out on this, you have a wee chance of getting a second chance.)

However, I can also understand losing motivation to write. It is a massive kick in the teeth. Take a break, if you need it! :O There's nothing wrong with putting dragoning down for a while (or even just checking in a little less often, as you need to) and then coming back to it. ^_^"

D: But don't take down any records pages! I /hate/ when people do that! ;.;

Yakima · Post by **Yakima** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 9:35 pm

Dray wrote:D: But don't take down any records pages! I /hate/ when people do that! ;.;

Heh...that I would never do. I know Shard just might send her wings/fleets/armadas/whatever after me if I did.

I understand that part, of wanting to keep things organized. I'm the same way. I just don't start determining dragons till I've closed it so that I don't get the problem of stragglers which is why I opened the frenzy deadline one more day and allowed sponser agencies to pick up the extras. Truthfully, I haven't finished that yet though it's still in some wet cement and not hardened yet. *shrugs*

I just might send them Kat's way. I haven't got any of her dragons yet anyway...

DNS · Post by **DNS** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 9:47 pm

-rolls- I don't have much time to reply f'serious or anything, cuz i'm on da phone, but yeah:

"Add to that the fact that it's hard to fill up clutches that are larger then 10 dragons (x.x' I learned my lesson with the BWR and making big clutches, eesh.)"

Depends sometimes. Some of the clutches are filling up more quickly, what with the more new people. Your ten-egg clutches will fill quickly, and unyko's recent VOTS clutch come to mind specifically, but yeah. Some people may just start having to raise clutch sizes~ >.>

better reply at a later date.

Shard · Post by **Shard** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 11:24 pm

Yes, I'm a strict 'keep yer records up!' type.

It makes everything much easier when folks are trying to get pedigrees, EVEN of the pernese types. They've been around much longer than the mutts, but they've had fewer and fewer generations to themselves.

And Yakima I agree, I like the nature of having to be specific to pernese or even alskyran or icarian personality or quality types to get a fairly specific dragon. I love giveaways but I do enjoy having a challenge.

Xenoqueen · Post by **Xenoqueen** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 11:29 pm

Again... my deadlines are clearly posted. I know they can confuse, what with time-zones and all, but that's why I try to give a final notice about 24, give or take, in advance.

Yes, I'm a hard-ass about my deadlines. I'm sorry it doesn't work for you, but it works best for me. And when it works for me, I'm able to continue enjoying my agency and continue to cycle clutches.

I'm sorry you missed out, but the clutch was open about two months, my deadline was noted, and I gave 27-hours notice. Yes, my early-morning deadlines can be confusing, and I did move it "backwards" a day from my usual, but again... deadline was noted in several places, and I gave 27-hours notice.

Can we please discontinue the expressal of disappointment, now?

Silver Midnight · Post by **Silver Midnight** » Fri Jul 21, 2006 11:39 pm

I just want to see the pretty babies. ^^ I've had no creative juices, and I could've written a half-assed story...but nah. I'll just sit back and enjoy the collab arts!

Astra · Post by **Astra** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 12:33 am

hey its not a problem imo if you want to be strict about it. makes us see pretty babies all the sooner rather then "weeeelll i cooooould extend the deadline" and then delaying the writing of the hatching story. I feel bad that Yakima didn't get in on it but I see the point. It was a misunderstanding sadly. And I like Pern dragons but personality stereotypes do and always have bothered me, which was why when I had a Pern Weyr I assigned colors based on how well written the story was and not on their personality. After all its hardly fair to assign an arrogant but charismatic leader with two poorly written paragraphs a bronze and a less charismatic but well meaning character with a beautifully written story a blue. Then again I always did have a soft spot for blues, and on Pern I probably would have been a female blue rider. The sexuality thing always did weird me out, though. My characters seemed to always Impress brown, I guess I just have a thing for the stalwart, determined type

Myrror · Post by **Myrror** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 12:50 am

She's got 50 candidates already--that's a HECK of a lot, alot of hatching-writing per candidate, alot of personality blurbs to write, just a heck of a lot. I was thinking the same thing, even though the deadline date said otherwise. I missed sending in two candidates because of that--and I got Amika and Saeneh in by the skin of my teeth (and considering my teeth don't have enamal on half of them...) with a cop-out ending where a middle should be. As much as I would have liked to had time to write more, and to write for the other characters, it's entirely my fault for waiting to the last minute, not feeling like writing or not.

Phe doesn't have to extend anything. Period. It's gonna be hard enough writing for those 50 she's got now, for a normal clutch.

DNS · Post by **DNS** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 1:04 am

"And I like Pern dragons but personality stereotypes do and always have bothered me, "

That bothered me too, that and the sexuality thing. :/ but i hated the sexuality thing because ALL my characters are bisexual, and most lean towards gay, which means all i could get is green and blue, and the rare brown if the person was feeling nice. after awhile, it just got infuriating, so now I take great offense to that little bit, and therefore ignore it. >.> that and the colour base, but that was because the idiots on neopets assumed that there was no colour variation between dragons, and all browns were the same shade of shit-brown. X.x ^^;

//roleplay rant.

whee, the random things i say when i'm on the phone~

Indigo · Post by **Indigo** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 1:56 am

*oogles number* holy cow, more power to you Phe! I do not envy the work you have to do for this clutch. o_O

...at least its a nice, even number? ^^;

Mystic Dragon · Post by **Mystic Dragon** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 7:08 am

Phe did make the deadlines clear. Some of us may have missed out. Oh well, there's always next time.

I'm looking forward to seeing the babies out of this clutch at least.

Post by **Dray** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 9:11 am

XD I'm just looking forward to reading the story. Phe's hatchings are always so much fun (so are the pickup pages, but shh.) even if I don't have a candidate in for 'em.

Also: a surprised and very agreeing "LOL" at DNS's comment about browns. XDDD For me, that's what I always thought about those bronzes that were that... green-brown colour. D: That's nay what bronze looks like, ach!

Yakima · Post by **Yakima** » Sat Jul 22, 2006 8:30 pm

I had gotten over the fact that I missed it hours before you posted that thanks to a few people who PMed me.

I don't care anymore. And the reasons I don't care anymore I'll just keep to myself. I don't need pity that I missed it. I'm not the only one. Truthfully, 50 is nothing to me. I did 140+ once. No, I didn't have personality blups and such. And the Shimmer Frenzy has more then 50 and I probably will but more on the pickup then usuall. *shrug* Yeah, it's a lot but I would rather take my candidates somewhere else now. The Destiny is probably the last place these characters would go considering where they are from....

And thats the last you'll hear from me so Phe can her her thread back.

*goes back to hunting for missing glasses* Really hard to accomplish anything when everything is blurry

...*squints at screen while typing...*

Post by **Dray** » Sun Jul 23, 2006 9:22 am

So ANYWAYS.

:3 Phe, good luck with the writing! We look forward to seeing what comes of it! *camps out and secretly roasts weenies*