Universal Size Chart...er... charts.

JKatkina · Post by **JKatkina** » Mon Jun 14, 2010 7:36 pm

Oh my god, moar! Or better yet, pictars! XD

The cute deer-things as vermin made me lol. Because honestly... that's what they do. XD Deer will eat and breed themselves out of house and home in an accommodating environment. Silly creatures.

Post by **StarFyre** » Mon Jun 14, 2010 8:16 pm

*Laughs* I take it I should add this sort of info to the updated Akelara pages that I'm working on?

*overdramatic-put-upon-sigh* And I suppose I could see my way to sketching these beasties. My personal favorite is the bat-thing, because who wouldn't like a giant, creepy, ground-bound, carnivorous bat-thing that falls on its prey from above as a pet?

Shard · Post by **Shard** » Mon Jun 14, 2010 8:26 pm

Got those color/elements done yet?

Post by **StarFyre** » Mon Jun 14, 2010 8:32 pm

Actually, working on them right now. Did you want just marking color hexcodes or marking and a general body color codes?

Shard · Post by **Shard** » Mon Jun 14, 2010 9:05 pm

Well I think the idea I had was more a general range of colors that were accepted as available for whatever element, be it marking or base color.

Post by **StarFyre** » Mon Jun 14, 2010 9:14 pm

*Nods* Easy enough. I do tend to use a limited palette with each element, and the markings are supposed to be the same color - Ice markings will always be the same color, no matter whether the markings are on an Ice or a Fire or any other Element. Granted, because I never kept track of what color I was actually using, the markings tend to be similar-but-not-identical. Ah well.

The only real variable is boot-markings and wingsails (though Shadows and Voids have defined wingsail colors 'because it was cool' ...)

Shard · Post by **Shard** » Mon Jun 14, 2010 9:22 pm

Cool. Mine in the giveaway thread aren't full blooded or even close to it, so I didn't really follow explicitly, but I did still use the general colors you state in the Library.

Post by **StarFyre** » Mon Jun 14, 2010 9:37 pm

They're like.. 1/8th blood, or something like that. =P

I'm also rewriting the descriptions a bit, and adding in the five elements that I mentioned way-back-when in a thread in the Updates forum (Wylder, Illusion, Blood, Sun, Moon), because I can. And I've been considering it for a long time.

But I am working on the elements pages now, so y'know =P

Post by **StarFyre** » Mon Jun 14, 2010 10:53 pm

Double-post. Wee. My cat insists I go to bed, through the expedient of laying on my keyboard every couple minutes until I kick him off again.

Take a look at the changed pages here: http://www.silveredmagic.com/test/libmyrsilk.html

Basic Info, Females, Males, Eggs/Growth, and the first page of the Elements section have changes made to them. I only have three of the color-sets finished on the Elements, because Laharl decided to figure out how to crash Photoshop by banging on the keyboard. But, is that what you were thinking of when you asked for colors, Shard?

I'm going to bed now. Will work on finishing the colors tomorrow.

Shard · Post by **Shard** » Mon Jun 14, 2010 11:42 pm

Absolutely

I think it makes designing offspring and understanding the makeup of these dragons' powers much easier.

Post by **Dray** » Tue Jun 15, 2010 9:11 am

Gotta add my voice to Kat's: those pets and critters were pretty awesome. That place is definitely not human-friendly! XD

Post by **StarFyre** » Tue Jun 15, 2010 10:37 am

Shard: It's interesting trying to figure out where the color range is with a lot of these guys, because my method of coloring has always been "That looks pretty!" As such, I think there might be some examples out there with colors that don't exactly fit into the ranges given, but this should cover most things.

Dray: Humans are really and truly the 'mice/gerbils' of the pets. We keep mice and gerbils, even though a careless action of ours could kill them, and even though we might also be keeping cats, dogs, snakes, etc, at the very same time. There's probably some examples of the bat-things and cat-things at Akelara, at the very least, not sure about the deer-things or the Clan Home cat-things, or the lizard-things. =P Should I offer big hulking scary beasts as adoptables?

Post by **StarFyre** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 11:47 am

Hey, Jkat? Artdragon still being down and all, could you post the height ranges for the different categories (v.small/small/medium-small/etc)? I find myself at a bit of loss for properly categorizing things without that page, and my database is starting to show it. =P

JKatkina · Post by **JKatkina** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 11:50 am

artdragon is such a dick. :(

First set of numbers is feet, second is meters, height is at the shoulder.

1. Very Small: <2, <0.6
2. Small: 2 - 5, 0.6 - 1.5
3. Medium-Small : 5 - 9, 1.5 - 2.9
4. Medium Height: 10 - 14, 3.0 - 4.4
5. Medium-Large: 15 - 19, 4.5 - 5.9
6. Large: 20 - 24, 6.0 - 7.4
7. Very Large: 25 - 29, 100 - 119
8. Massive: 30<, 9.0<

Post by **StarFyre** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 12:14 pm

<3! Thanks!

Keilin Alyr · Post by **Keilin Alyr** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 1:00 pm

I typically just use a range of 25-30% of the adult length to determine height to shoulder, depending on the dragon in question. It's been working for some of the more basic looking species thus far.

Post by **Dray** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 6:08 pm

I've been at a bit of a loss without that page as well. Thanks!

Yakima · Post by **Yakima** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 7:07 pm

JKat, is there a way to get those template charts? Once I get around to doing my Anarendor species I'm sure you would rather I stick them on the universal one.

JKatkina · Post by **JKatkina** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:13 pm

XD You put your creatures on whatever chart you think appropriate, Yakima. I have no preference either way. The template charts are up on artdragon... if it doesn't come back up by the time you finish your Aranedor species, and you still want to use the USC base, let me know and I'll get it to you another way.

Shard · Post by **Shard** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:18 pm

I have the feet and meters templates, I believe. When they're done loading on my photobucket I'll link them. I don't know whether they'll be changed from bmp to jpg there though. If they do change I'll just put them on my dtf site for you.

Shard · Post by **Shard** » Fri Jun 25, 2010 9:24 pm

Well, it did change to jpg, so tell me if they're not up to par and I'll reload them as bitmaps on my site through ftp instead.

(clickies to the main pics because they be huge)

JKatkina · Post by **JKatkina** » Sat Jun 26, 2010 10:02 am

Oh hey, thanks, Shard! XD You're awesome.

Post by **StarFyre** » Sat Jun 26, 2010 12:05 pm

I can upload a copy of the .psd, if you'd like that, Yakima.

Shard · Post by **Shard** » Fri Aug 27, 2010 4:10 pm

I found this great wyvern model on gmod yesterday and wanted to fiddle with it for a bit. They put out 6 sizes but honestly the biggest one couldn't even fit within the skybox of the game, and I couldn't manipulate it lol!!

The smallest of them is just a little too large to be a flitter, but still works pretty well for a "really big flit" sized creature. (So I included one of my own flitters, for true comparison purposes.)

Assume that all humans in these shots are 6' tall. I am assuming that the largest among these are Pernese (large sized perhaps bronze). They're just... so goddamn huge

Clickie for big sized forum-breaking images.

Yakima · Post by **Yakima** » Fri Aug 27, 2010 5:28 pm

*peers at screen* okay, really need to get my computer fixed because I want to see but it's being super retarted right now with all it's updates and stuck on a 4 color, 800x600 resolution...*glares at it*

Will be back to check but it sounds cool.

Post by **StarFyre** » Fri Aug 27, 2010 5:42 pm

big!Dragon goes *chomp-gulp!* and human disappears!

Y'know, my inner world-builder would really, really like to know what all these supermassive dragons (yeah, yeah, I know, shush, Myrsilk are supermassive, I know) actually eat, and why their worlds aren't completely depopulated of all life.

Shard · Post by **Shard** » Fri Aug 27, 2010 6:37 pm

Well, now that I think on it, that's one thing that Pern got kind of right. The super-fast but super-weak growth of trees.

Every couple hundred years here comes the Red Star again to bombard the planet. The plants evolved around that bombardment. Presumably the wildlife would as well though that's not nearly as easy to 'get'.

I'd imagine that the worlds would have to support MAJOR herds of creatures, if the dragons were world wide that might be a problem. The environment would provide a boundary for the dragons' growth I would think, that if they're over-eating an area they would be able to move to another, but that other area might have different food sources or even dangers.

On the other hand, nomadic dragon tribes would make a LOT of sense, in that regard. Cruise around the countryside for a year, bam new baby wildebeests.

It would also really destroy other predators habits.

I'd want to be a creature that lived underground, lol - how many dragons dig for their meals?

Xenoqueen · Post by **Xenoqueen** » Fri Aug 27, 2010 7:53 pm

Quick, somebody come up with a baleen-feeding dragon. If blue whales can do it, so can a dragon! ;)

Shard · Post by **Shard** » Fri Aug 27, 2010 8:20 pm

If they live only on air or lol pollutants, that would rule.

Yakima · Post by **Yakima** » Fri Aug 27, 2010 8:20 pm

*comes back with a screen that is correct* Those are cool, Shard. I like seeing the size difference.

Though I guess I would put the largest at gold sized but yeah...bronze and gold are close in size anyway.